Legislature(2021 - 2022)GRUENBERG 120

03/02/2021 01:00 PM House MILITARY & VETERANS' AFFAIRS

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
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*+ HB 34 NAMING VIETNAM HELI. PILOTS' MEM. BRIDGE TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
*+ HB 97 LAND VOUCHERS; PFDS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
        HB  34-NAMING VIETNAM HELI. PILOTS' MEM. BRIDGE                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
1:05:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR TUCK  announced that the  first order of business  would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO. 34, "An  Act naming the Vietnam Helicopter Pilots'                                                               
Memorial Bridge."                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:05:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SHAW, as prime sponsor,  introduced HB 34. He said                                                               
the bill  was originally conceived by  Representative Tilton, and                                                               
he thanked her for allowing him to introduce it.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SHAW  shared his experience as  an airman, passing                                                               
around  a  51-year-old picture  of  a  Huey helicopter  that  was                                                               
evacuating two  wounded soldiers.  He  then read, as a  salute to                                                               
the pilots, a radio transmission  between helicopters Ghost Rider                                                               
172 and 174.  Ghost Rider 172  was hit 20 times deep within enemy                                                               
territory; it made a forced  landing, causing aircraft damage and                                                               
wounding crew  members.   Ghost Rider 174  had an  engine failure                                                               
and crashed eight miles south of  Ghost Rider 172, resulting in a                                                               
total  loss.   Over 12,000  U.S. Military  helicopters spent  7.5                                                               
million hours  flying over Vietnam, flying  two million missions.                                                               
Representative Shaw  said 42 percent  of the  helicopters serving                                                               
in Vietnam were destroyed by  enemy fire, bad weather, mechanical                                                               
snafus, and  other "bad hands" routinely  dealt by war.   A total                                                               
of 2,000 pilots and over 2,700 crew were killed.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:09:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SHAW   then  described  memorial   structures  at                                                               
Arlington National  Cemetery, including  a monument  measuring 22                                                               
inches  high, 21  inches  deep,  and 32  inches  wide, which  was                                                               
placed at Section 35 along Memorial  Drive, not far from the Tomb                                                               
of  the  Unknown Soldier.    He  expressed  his gratitude,  as  a                                                               
Vietnam veteran, to  the helicopter pilots for  their courage and                                                               
selflessness.   He  said that  it's been  51 years  and he  still                                                               
carries  the  anguish; he  said  that  we  need to  remember  the                                                               
courage  and   selflessness  of  those  who   made  the  ultimate                                                               
sacrifice.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:10:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR TUCK asked  for further description of the  elements of the                                                               
photograph.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SHAW  described  the  September  1970  operation,                                                               
stressing  the sacrifice  of the  pilots, their  ages, and  their                                                               
wounds.   He talked about  Roger Banfield, one of  the evacuated,                                                               
who was put into an induced coma  for eight days, and he spoke of                                                               
being able to hear the Huey  rotor blade cutting through the air,                                                               
knowing it  was being piloted by  a 19-year-old who had  only 100                                                               
hours of flight training before going to war.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:12:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOSHUA WALTON,  Staff, Representative  Laddie Shaw,  Alaska State                                                               
Legislature, presented  HB 34 on  behalf of  Representative Shaw,                                                               
prime  sponsor.   He described  the  location of  the bridges  in                                                               
relation to the Alaska Veterans'  Memorial; bridges 1124 and 1189                                                               
spanning the Matanuska  River at mile 30.4 of  the Glenn Highway.                                                               
Included  in the  packet are  photos  of the  bridges taken  from                                                               
Google  Maps,  an  academic  article  highlighting  the  role  of                                                               
helicopters  in  the  Vietnam   War,  and  contemporary  articles                                                               
highlighting   the  pilots'   heroism  and   the  challenges   of                                                               
recognition  post-conflict.   He  noted that  this  bill has  the                                                               
support  of  the  Vietnam Helicopter  Pilots  Association  Alaska                                                               
Chapter and that the president of the chapter is testifying.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:15:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   RAUSCHER  inquired   whether   there  would   be                                                               
testimony addressing how bridges are named.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. WALTON replied that bridges  are named in statute and require                                                               
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RAUSCHER  asked  how   the  bridge  is  currently                                                               
denoted.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WALTON  Bridges   replied  that  they  are   denoted  by  an                                                               
identifying number; these bridges are numbers 1124 and 1189.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   RAUSCHER  asked   whether   the  Department   of                                                               
Transportation & Public Facilities (DOTPF) understands that.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. WALTON  replied yes, and he  confirmed that there is  no name                                                               
on the bridge.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:17:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NELSON   thanked  Representative  Shaw   for  his                                                               
service and dedicated thoughts.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:17:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN asked for geographic clarity.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. WALTON, confirmed  that when heading north  from Anchorage to                                                               
the Matanuska-Susitna ("Mat-Su") Valley,  the bridges in question                                                               
are less than a mile after the Knik River Bridge.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:18:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE    STORY    expressed    her    appreciation    to                                                               
Representative  Shaw and  inquired  how  community members  would                                                               
know that the  process of naming the bridge is  occurring and the                                                               
significance of it.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WALTON replied  that  there  are no  plans  to announce  the                                                               
naming but there  will be a sign that the  community will see. He                                                               
noted that there  would be a $6,000 fiscal  note specifically for                                                               
the sign.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY  asked for confirmation that  there would be                                                               
no public comment.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR TUCK noted that there  will be invited testimony today, and                                                               
public testimony later.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:20:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR TUCK  announced the  next presenter,  but due  to technical                                                               
difficulties, the telephonic connection was lost.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:20:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 1:21 p.m. to 1:23 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:23:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  TUCK announced  HB 34  would be  held until  later in  the                                                               
meeting.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
        HB  34-NAMING VIETNAM HELI. PILOTS' MEM. BRIDGE                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
1:24:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR TUCK announced  that the next order of business  would be a                                                               
return  to  HOUSE  BILL  NO.  34,  "An  Act  naming  the  Vietnam                                                               
Helicopter Pilots' Memorial Bridge."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  TUCK   explained  that  the   lost  connection   with  the                                                               
aforementioned testifier had been reestablished.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:24:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LYNN  KILE,  President,  Vietnam Helicopter  Pilots  Association,                                                               
began  by affirming  his  support for  HB  34 and  that  he is  a                                                               
Vietnam  veteran.   He described  the  Vietnam Helicopter  Pilots                                                               
Association as an all-inclusive,  all-service group that includes                                                               
pilots and  crew members, currently  with 80 members.   There are                                                               
approximately 300 pilots  currently in Alaska.   He then stressed                                                               
that  Alaska is  a heavy  aviation state  with a  high number  of                                                               
Vietnam veteran pilots.  This  is a historic opportunity to honor                                                               
those who have  dedicated their skills to Alaska and  the rest of                                                               
the United States.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:27:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR TUCK announced that HB 34 would be held over.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 34 HFIN Hearing Request Memo 2.25.2021.pdf HMLV 3/2/2021 1:00:00 PM
HB 34
HB 34 Sponsor Statement 2.25.2021.pdf HMLV 3/2/2021 1:00:00 PM
SFIN 5/17/2021 1:00:00 PM
HB 34
HB 34 ver A 2.26.2021.PDF HMLV 3/2/2021 1:00:00 PM
HB 34
HB 34 Additional Info - Vietnam Helicopter Memorial - Time Magazine 2.7.2020.pdf HMLV 3/2/2021 1:00:00 PM
SFIN 5/17/2021 1:00:00 PM
HB 34
HB 34 Additional Info - Air & Space Magazine Article 2.7.2020.pdf HMLV 3/2/2021 1:00:00 PM
SFIN 5/17/2021 1:00:00 PM
HB 34
HB 34 Bridge Images 2.7.2020.pdf HMLV 3/2/2021 1:00:00 PM
SFIN 5/17/2021 1:00:00 PM
HB 34
HB 34 Additional Info - VHPA Website 2.7.2020.pdf HMLV 3/2/2021 1:00:00 PM
SFIN 5/17/2021 1:00:00 PM
HB 34
HB 34 Additional Info - Helicopters in Vietnam 2.7.2020.pdf HMLV 3/2/2021 1:00:00 PM
SFIN 5/17/2021 1:00:00 PM
HB 34
HB 34 Additional Info - VHPA Honored 2.7.2020.pdf HMLV 3/2/2021 1:00:00 PM
HB 34
HB 97 Hearing Request Memo 2.25.2021.pdf HMLV 3/2/2021 1:00:00 PM
HB 97
HB 97 Bill Transmission Letter 2.11.21.pdf HMLV 3/2/2021 1:00:00 PM
HB 97
HB 97 Sectional Analysis 3.01.2021.pdf HMLV 3/2/2021 1:00:00 PM
HB 97
HB 97 ver A 2.25.2021.PDF HMLV 3/2/2021 1:00:00 PM
HB 97
HB 97 Dept of Revenue Presentation 3.01.2021.pdf HMLV 3/2/2021 1:00:00 PM
HB 97
HB 97 Fiscal Note DHSS-FS 2.9.2021.PDF HMLV 3/2/2021 1:00:00 PM
HB 97
HB 97 Fiscal Note DNR-MLW 2.10.2021.PDF HMLV 3/2/2021 1:00:00 PM
HB 97
HB 97 Fiscal Note DOR-PFD 2.10.2021.PDF HMLV 3/2/2021 1:00:00 PM
HB 97